tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post1702660708604577883..comments2023-11-05T00:52:41.562-07:00Comments on EPCOT Central: The Best and Worst of Epcot -- Number 3Epcot82http://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-68581815601856085072011-11-26T16:14:02.575-08:002011-11-26T16:14:02.575-08:00I meant I watched both versions of Universe of Ene...I meant I watched both versions of Universe of Energy:<br /><br />I seem to have a curse where people do not understand my posts or think I am attacking them.<br /><br />I am always wrongfully accused but it's their loss not mine. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-76998706501698242172011-11-26T16:06:39.328-08:002011-11-26T16:06:39.328-08:00I LOVED the Jeopardy aspect of the (still new?) Un...I LOVED the Jeopardy aspect of the (still new?) Universe of Energy and couldn't stop laughing about what happened to *Stupid Judy* at the end of the ride...I mean dream sequence as Ellen called her. <br />Yeah that's it: Dream sequence. Phew.<br /><br />Ellen:<br />"I'll take a nap for a 100" *falls asleep and has nightmare* <br /><br />"And it gets really weird from here: Suddenly there's this person who I don't even know reminding me that there is no smoking,eating video-taping or flash-photography allowed in my dream"<br /><br /><br />If you article wasn't balanced in other areas I'd have given you a three alarm fire flame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-63624610119516366712011-11-26T16:00:18.702-08:002011-11-26T16:00:18.702-08:00I am going to point out and I don't care if pe...I am going to point out and I don't care if people hang me for this:<br /><br />Your views of Universe Energy are flawed beyond belief. <br /><br />To make a long story short I grew up watching Bill Nye the Science Guy and since we live too far away to ever visit EPCOT I decided to see what it was all about.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I actually watched both versions which I saw the old one first on YT. I can actually see the first/original putting people to sleep because it's more like a docmumentary that no one will really remember except the kick-ass song at the end. <br /><br /><br />"Here we go thru the flow, It's the Universe of Energy!". which will give people the much needed jolt out the door.<br /><br /><br />However the Ellen's Energy Adventure is not only hillarious but actually educational at the same time learning about the different ways we harness energy and how there is not going to be just one answer.<br /><br /><br />"But if we keep using our brain power we will have LOTS of ways of finding new energy". "Maybe even unlock the powers of the stars. FUSHION POWER!" :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-41071550895950895162009-01-30T07:52:00.000-08:002009-01-30T07:52:00.000-08:00I also strongly disagree with your WOM take. It wa...I also strongly disagree with your WOM take. It was one of my favorite pavilions. I know that this is all subjective. But, I am from Detroit and my father has always worked for the big 3. The automobile was a huge part of my life. First WOM had more audio-animatronics than any other ride in any of the parks. It was quirky and humorous. The post ride was always my favorite part, all of the latest GM cars, Robot and Bird, future concept cars, etc. The only thing worse than the hideous abortion it has turned into is possibly Tiki Room "Under New Management." (Foam quickly sucked back in from both corners of my mouth)blueskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481663761338257429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-4542580743706134972009-01-29T07:56:00.000-08:002009-01-29T07:56:00.000-08:00I'm often right with you on these, but I've got to...I'm often right with you on these, but I've got to say that I was a huge fan of World of Motion, and I miss it. <BR/><BR/>Give me World of Motion any day over Test Track; that's for sure.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12316245294248077291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-87209372317415595892009-01-29T01:48:00.000-08:002009-01-29T01:48:00.000-08:00A smug school teacher?At least better than a pompo...A smug school teacher?<BR/><BR/>At least better than a pompous, arrogant, dis-embodied Professor Snape growling in my ear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-69015654521644711942009-01-27T18:32:00.000-08:002009-01-27T18:32:00.000-08:00I second CJW's request! Is there a possibility yo...I second CJW's request! Is there a possibility you can upload or provide a link for us to retrieve the picture in a higher resolution? Thanks so much!Ericahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03766026248051380632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-52128937959063102222009-01-26T19:30:00.000-08:002009-01-26T19:30:00.000-08:00Digital Jedi -- I can always disagree! But I abso...Digital Jedi -- I can always disagree! But I absolutely agree about the "hard" laughs in Ellen. It's why comedies, as a rule, don't have a very long shelf life. Even today, I'll chuckle at the Marx Brothers, but it's not like I don't know the joke. (Substitute pretty much any comedian, from Lenny Bruce to Phyllis Diller to Dane Cook in there). World of Motion was undeniably cute. I just never thought it worked. But disagree away!Epcot82https://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-73058995051034728042009-01-26T15:11:00.000-08:002009-01-26T15:11:00.000-08:00Universe of Energy's fatal flaw was one thing and ...Universe of Energy's fatal flaw was one thing and one thing only. The needlessly long movie at the end of the attraction. Of all things they decided to make the longest and it was the energy movie at the end. The interesting stuff was relegated to one third the length of the movie combined. Had they truncated that film altogether, it would have made the attraction more memborable for most guests, as the last thing they wouldn't be saying was "geez, that movie went on forever".<BR/><BR/>This is probably the first time I'd have to disagree with you Epcot82. I thought World of Motion worked for a number of reasons, one reason being the simplistic humor. Simplistic humor will engender a good feeling almost every time, even if it isn't much. The gafaws they where going for in Ellen's Energy Adventure are what killed it, because those kind of gags, while much funnier, are only funny once.Digital Jedihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02374739586203788564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-80343687315366369212009-01-24T20:37:00.000-08:002009-01-24T20:37:00.000-08:00"One of my favourite things was when everyone was ..."One of my favourite things was when everyone was leaving the park after IllumiNations, and you'd see Spaceship Earth lit up purple - I'll never forget that experience as a young kid."<BR/><BR/>- Me too. My Dad had a technique where he'd make reservations at Alfredo's as late as possible. When we came out, all of the music would be playing, the fountains would be on, and it would be completely empty. This was back in '82, so the night show wasn't as popular then. Loved it, the lit pavements, the lit pavilions, just beatutiful.Kurt Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14415926265294021015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-35686375212558092862009-01-24T18:40:00.000-08:002009-01-24T18:40:00.000-08:00I think the people who installed Ellen's Energy Ad...I think the people who installed Ellen's Energy Adventure in 1996 thought it'd run maybe ten years, max. Conditions have changed of course.<BR/><BR/>I have to say that the Energy companion site really opened my eyes to the technical achievements in that ride that most people don't pay any attention to. That, the incredible score (Waaaay better than the new SSE score), and the big bang sequence are about the only reasons I re-ride it.<BR/><BR/>As goofy and odd as that ride is, I *really* don't want to see that pavilion close, or suffer a Horizons-like fate. I would really like them to find a new sponsor who can rehab it, Siemens-style. The source material in 2009 is certainly far more interesting than it was in 1996.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901254954146927255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-6839454290159400092009-01-24T18:21:00.000-08:002009-01-24T18:21:00.000-08:00I certainly agree about World of Motion. It would ...I certainly agree about World of Motion. It would have been a great World's Fair attraction, but it was one of Future World's weaker efforts. It still beat the heck out of Test Track, of course.<BR/><BR/>Ellen's Energy Adventure's biggest failing, in my opinion, is that it's so ridiculously steeped in 1990s pop culture. It's like Disney did their best to stamp it with an expiration date. The original show was an altogether different thing, made for a different type of audience. It was like Star Trek: The Motion Picture to Ellen's Energy Adventure's Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Although the Ellen show is technically inferior, it's more entertaining. Now that Exxon doesn't sponsor the pavilion anymore, I wish Disney would give us a real energy pavilion that honestly evaluates the future of energy beyond fossil fuels.<BR/><BR/>I'm really enjoying this series. Great work!David Landonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12909440700102911571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-78119974726846233072009-01-24T17:21:00.000-08:002009-01-24T17:21:00.000-08:00Thanks, Epcot82, for another interesting post.I ha...Thanks, Epcot82, for another interesting post.<BR/><BR/>I have to disagree with you about The World Of Motion ride. I always thought it was pretty good. I agree with you about the original Universe of Energy ride - I always loved it and was upset when I found it being described as boring in guide books. It's maybe true that it could have been just a little shorter since obviously there were always going to be a lot of young kids on the ride. Ellen's EA was a brave effort to update the show in the mid-90s. I can understand what you say about it, but maybe it wasn't quite as bad as seem to believe, but I agree the original was better.<BR/><BR/>I think kmiller15211 made an excellent point: one of the great things about EPCOT Center wasn't just the actual contents of the attractions. It was also just staring up at the amazing architecture, first of all in the bright Florida sunlight in the morning and afternoon, and then seeing the pavilions transformed into glowing shapes of light at night, and also the sounds of fountains and waterfalls in the distance I used to love too. It made you dream of the future in an optimistic way. <BR/><BR/>One of my favourite things was when everyone was leaving the park after IllumiNations, and you'd see Spaceship Earth lit up purple - I'll never forget that experience as a young kid. Thanks again, Andy.Andy JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15819413906544791899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-9043927319592420892009-01-24T15:46:00.000-08:002009-01-24T15:46:00.000-08:00As always, fabulous insights. That is a fantastic...As always, fabulous insights. <BR/><BR/>That is a fantastic photo of the WOM ascent! Is it your own composition? Quintessential stark EPCOT beauty. Is there a larger resolution version available for download?<BR/><BR/>Thanks.CJWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09074562057087621859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-58046147373042768312009-01-24T14:34:00.000-08:002009-01-24T14:34:00.000-08:00While I agree that the story line in the World of ...While I agree that the story line in the World of Motion could have been "fleshed out" a little more, it was with the theme of EPCOT, where we have been, are now and where we might go in the future. I remember buying a futuristic looking chevy van, the APV, after seeing it at EPCOT. It was that "possibility" that was created by the pavillions, that no longet exists. Only Spaceship Earth has that original feel. I think with World of Motion there could have been "plussing" as Walt called it, but no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water. I like Test Track, but after the first couple of rides, I really had no reason to go back. Now I have to watch videos of the original rides that I took to be inspired. <BR/> This site is awesome, keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-51286603081500069652009-01-24T12:36:00.000-08:002009-01-24T12:36:00.000-08:00Thanks, Anonymous -- fixed!Thanks, Anonymous -- fixed!Epcot82https://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-4769863883584279812009-01-24T08:53:00.000-08:002009-01-24T08:53:00.000-08:00All the sub-captions in the post say the Best #4 i...All the sub-captions in the post say the Best #4 instead of #3.<BR/>May want to fix that<BR/><BR/>Great post though, as usual I'm not old enough to know the older rides, but I love to read your opinion on them anyways!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-57093892981109195952009-01-24T08:03:00.000-08:002009-01-24T08:03:00.000-08:00The one thing that always struck me about these or...The one thing that always struck me about these original Epcot attractions was the grand scale. I can remember being 5-6 years old and walking through the cavernous Universe of Energy lobby when you board the moving theatre cars. I fondly recall the foyer of the World of Motion, with its open air boarding. Most of all, I remember at night, when each of these gigantic and ambitious attractions were lit up by the most beautiful palette ever. <BR/><BR/>I'm not the purist that you are, I think some of the older attractions were tired, but I don't totally hate the new attractions (even though they are commercially crass), but I do miss the beauty of Epcot, which does seem to be lacking something.<BR/><BR/>Great site, by the way.kmiller15211https://www.blogger.com/profile/08307282494334977508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-91471840836877473362009-01-24T06:45:00.000-08:002009-01-24T06:45:00.000-08:00Thanks for sharing your ideas about EPCOT past... ...Thanks for sharing your ideas about EPCOT past... it makes me wish that I had been.<BR/><BR/>On Ellen's Universe of Energy... I have to say that although dated, I believe that this was one of the bests of Epcot. I do acknowledge my strong biases for Ellen. <BR/><BR/>I was surprised to see her in the pavilion and loved the randomness of her traveling back in time to the dinosaur era.(randomness is Ellen's brand of comedy and although dated, it seemed like i was watching her talk show.FutureWorld84https://www.blogger.com/profile/06318189036470121883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-50046799067455766712009-01-23T23:43:00.000-08:002009-01-23T23:43:00.000-08:00Marilyn, from 1982 to 1994, Epcot was known as EPC...Marilyn, from 1982 to 1994, Epcot was known as EPCOT Center. The most widely accepted reason for the name is that with hotels, "residents," transportation, offices, roadways, shopping, dining and the like, Walt Disney World really had become much like Walt's original vision of EPCOT. Therefore, the center of EPCOT (and it's literally at the center of the property) was this theme park ... hence the name EPCOT Center. But, some at Disney felt that even after 12 years, guests didn't understand the acronym. They thought a "nonsense word" would be better. And to emphasize the supposedly "ever-changing" concept of Epcot, the year was added to the name. Hence, the park became "Epcot '94," then "Epcot '95."<BR/><BR/>That didn't last long. In 1996, it became simply "Epcot."<BR/><BR/>It's actually been "Epcot" (or a variation of that) longer than it was EPCOT Center, but a great many guests and guidebooks still refer to it by the name it was given when it was opened. It took Disney more than five years to finish changing over many of the internal signage around the property from EPCOT Center to Epcot, and the I-4 signs still read "EPCOT Center" for a long time after the name change.<BR/><BR/>EPCOT Center was a rather "pure" theme, and a great example of the concept of a "theme park" -- it took a very strong theme, built a park around it, and everything fit into that theme, which was how the human experience of sharing one planet leads us to our future, both technologically and socially.<BR/><BR/>While it's obviously a theme that resonates in today's world, Disney has mostly made Epcot into another one of the worldwide chain of "Disney Parks," rather than continue with its own strong identity. EPCOT Central and many of its readers hope that by writing about the strength of the original EPCOT Center theme, Disney will begin seeing the potential for this extraordinary park!Epcot82https://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-85679099106145248802009-01-23T19:20:00.000-08:002009-01-23T19:20:00.000-08:00I love the smell of Rome burning on Spaceship Eart...I love the smell of Rome burning on Spaceship Earth...I dont know what it was but it was very distinct and i do believe i would get high off that smell each time, lol...not quite, but something closeSamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740236120430058571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-91541255424213378432009-01-23T19:02:00.000-08:002009-01-23T19:02:00.000-08:00I have one comment - why and when did they change ...I have one comment - why and when did they change EPCOT (Experimental Prototype Community/City of Tomorrow) to "Epcot"? It was an acronym and when and why did it all of a sudden become a word? EPCOT is our favorite park and I don't know why they are messing ("Disneyfying" it)with it.Marilynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01421498714911478010noreply@blogger.com