tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post4841337226458936669..comments2023-11-05T00:52:41.562-07:00Comments on EPCOT Central: There's No There ThereEpcot82http://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-62858561658152355472009-10-06T11:18:10.922-07:002009-10-06T11:18:10.922-07:00Brad said:
>>>You know, I remember your p...<b>Brad said:</b><br />>>><i>You know, I remember your posts from before. I always remember the negative attitude that you have toward EPCOT, and it continues today. I worked as a WDWCP in 1995. I love the plaza then, I love it now. The music, the fountain, the buzz of the people, the fiber optics in the concrete. I respect the nostalgia for days gone by. But we don't need any more negativity in this world. Celebrate what is today.</i><br /><br />So do you have a reasonable argument as to why what we have today is quality, well thought out craftsmanship and have reasons why it resonates with audiences of today, or is this just a case of you like, he doesn't, so that means he <i>must</i> be wrong?Digital Jedihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02374739586203788564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-12427356168537629972009-10-05T04:32:55.584-07:002009-10-05T04:32:55.584-07:00Im sorry but the Future is WHITE dang it WHITE! Ep...Im sorry but the Future is WHITE dang it WHITE! Epcot should be gleaming hite utopia full of timelessness and fantastic Disney magic. Dont try to update it Ever...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-43136998411607749982009-10-03T19:22:56.928-07:002009-10-03T19:22:56.928-07:00But couldn't they just take down the tarps and...But couldn't they just take down the tarps and whirlygigs, paint the buildings a uniform color and restore the original concept? I mean, couldn't they? After seeing what has become of Hollywood Blvd., I can't imagine that even if people complained, they'd care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-89355563741815885902009-10-03T18:30:08.334-07:002009-10-03T18:30:08.334-07:00I'm not really a fan of the blue and green mys...I'm not really a fan of the blue and green myself, but compared to the tarps and whirlygigs it's the lesser of two evils.David Landonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12909440700102911571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-61085735978782761602009-10-03T16:20:06.372-07:002009-10-03T16:20:06.372-07:00That green and blue is HIDEOUS. I mean, cutesy pu...That green and blue is HIDEOUS. I mean, cutesy purple was bad enough, but those colors that they are (hopefully) testing are atrocious. Unbelievably ugly and almost offensive. They're trying WAAAAAAAAY too hard to make Innoventions Plaza "whimsical," when stately or timeless would work a lot better. Also, do you think they'll get rid of or at least REPAIR the stage by the fountain? It looks awful. Sorry to sound so critical, but there's some really ugly stuff happening in this area, along with some really nice stuff like the new railing around the fountain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-31454464321199225712009-10-03T15:22:21.947-07:002009-10-03T15:22:21.947-07:00There may be some reason for hope here. According ...There may be some reason for hope here. According to a thread in the WDWMagic.com forums, back in August Disney obtained a permit for "Promenade structure removal" at EPCOT, which has led to rampant speculation that the tarps are at last coming down.<br /><br />The area is definitely in the process of getting some kind of facelift; the breezeway entrances to Future World East and Future World West have been painted shades blue and green that clash with the whirlygigs and stuff from the 1990s. I've got a feeling the new paint job is the first step of a wider redecoration of the area. After all, the tarps and whirlygigs may have looked up-to-date in the 90s, but in this decade the clean, open design aesthetic that EPCOT Center started with is back in vogue.David Landonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12909440700102911571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-56477289224446026962009-10-03T11:27:41.235-07:002009-10-03T11:27:41.235-07:00Brad, I appreciate your stance. It's hard to ...Brad, I appreciate your stance. It's hard to celebrate what is today when "what is" isn't as good as it could be. As you'll remember from the glossy history lesson in The American Adventure (which I love), change and progress comes from not being content, from not accepting compromise -- and from having vision. Epcot is fine and still the best of the four Florida parks. But EPCOT Center was wonderful, and I believe Epcot could rework itself into "EPCOT Center 2.0" and be truly extraordinary.Epcot82https://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-3860917296198499882009-10-03T09:41:20.324-07:002009-10-03T09:41:20.324-07:00Brad, it really is not about nostalgia. I brought ...Brad, it really is not about nostalgia. I brought someone to Epcot last year who never had been there. She commented on the "messiness" of FutureWorld and she did not leave with a good impression or a desire to return.<br /><br />Additionally, the point of Epcot is/was/should be less about the indulgence of celebrating today than it is/was/should be about the embracement of a courageous future. <br /><br />I'm sorry but a pin trading tent is a sad commentary on the fact that we would forgo a courageous vision for the future for the materiality and triviality of pins today.<br /><br />The "evolution" of Epcot during the 90's is a microcosm of the thinking that had infected both our leadership and everyday people in America. It's the "all about me" mindset that had companies making grossly profit laden, gas guzzling SUVs instead of pushing the boundaries of engineering, and had consumers mindlessly buying them up without thinking about any consequences to the collective whole of our future. <br /><br />EPCOT Center, if it had been allowed to follow the courage of its inception, could have been a shining counterpoint to 90's "me" thinking. But unfortunately, profits instead of ideas were king, which is why we have the problems we are facing today. Now that is what's negative!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-9219193159531796832009-10-03T06:50:27.847-07:002009-10-03T06:50:27.847-07:00You know, I remember your posts from before. I al...You know, I remember your posts from before. I always remember the negative attitude that you have toward EPCOT, and it continues today. I worked as a WDWCP in 1995. I love the plaza then, I love it now. The music, the fountain, the buzz of the people, the fiber optics in the concrete. I respect the nostalgia for days gone by. But we don't need any more negativity in this world. Celebrate what is today.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17949598365766411495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-66199086325488564392009-10-03T05:38:41.632-07:002009-10-03T05:38:41.632-07:00I remember visiting Communicore between 1988 and 1...I remember visiting Communicore between 1988 and 1993 and it was fascinating. What I liked about it were the big empty spaces. You had to kind of search around for the attractions. I remember when we tried to find the Backstage Magic show once - it was some kind of tucked away in a corner of the building. I loved that. When they changed it in 1994 everything had to be filled in with gizmos.<br /><br />I wish I could find some of our photos of Communicore - they seem to have got lost.Andy JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15819413906544791899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-7264647570402595652009-10-03T04:54:37.229-07:002009-10-03T04:54:37.229-07:00The only thing I liked about Innovations Plaza was...The only thing I liked about Innovations Plaza was "Club Cool" & the Segway exhibit.<br /><br />"Club Cool" was nice because it was free soda (hint: Avoid "Italy" - You'll know what I mean when you get there).<br /><br />The Segway exhibit was nice but WAY too short - We took the free version (Apparently, if the scene is dead inside Innovations, the Segway people dole out a "free" version of their demonstration, as opposed to the $98 dollar version that they normally provide).<br /><br />I went through the "House of Innovations" & was thoroughly underwhelmed. It took too long to get in (It's a demonstration showcase so you just can't "walk through" at your own pace - Make sure you empty your bladder before you get in line), took too long to show & there wasn't much "wow"-worthiness to it.<br /><br />All the other exhibits in the Innovations plaza were geared towards 1st graders & their ilk. Toyed with some of those exhibits just to verify how ridiculously retarded they were & then moved on.<br /><br />Overall, the Innovation plazas (both sides) was a huge disappointment for me. This is yet another example of Disney's way of "dumbing down" Epcot so that the kiddies aren't crying 30 minutes into the park.<br /><br />If you're 6-8 years old, then maybe Innovations has some merit for you because that's the age group that Innovations is going after. However, everyone else need not apply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-91644177690084198552009-10-02T21:54:21.951-07:002009-10-02T21:54:21.951-07:00We'll be there in June, our first visit in 11 ...We'll be there in June, our first visit in 11 years. Glad the blog is back!jimmycrackedcornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06574882717162001228noreply@blogger.com