tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post6672208648870057712..comments2023-11-05T00:52:41.562-07:00Comments on EPCOT Central: EPCOT, Obama and the FutureEpcot82http://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-78730151051459917062009-03-28T11:38:00.000-07:002009-03-28T11:38:00.000-07:00huh? Obama is doing everything he can to clean up ...huh? Obama is doing everything he can to clean up the mistakes of the past while also pushing for the Epcot future of new energy technology, better healthcare and medical advances, land conservation and clean air, and promoting peace between nations.<BR/><BR/>Obama has done more in 60 days than most presidents have done in 8 years!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-58308076739372012002009-02-22T06:21:00.000-08:002009-02-22T06:21:00.000-08:00After having seen the direction the Obama Administ...After having seen the direction the Obama Administration has gone since Innauguration Day, I feel sorry for those who held so much hope on that day. It is clear now that he is not the answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-8646177759348719732009-01-30T07:36:00.000-08:002009-01-30T07:36:00.000-08:00I am back from my Orlando trip and I have some thi...I am back from my Orlando trip and I have some things to report. As stated in previous posts. I would not visit any of the Disney parks while on my trip. (For personal "foamer" reasons) I did however buy a seven day pass to Universal. Which I have not visited since the early 90's when it first opened. While Universal is a nice enough theme park, it is in no way comparable to the Disney experience. That is unless we are talking about the "new" Epcot. I could not help but draw comparisons between the two parks. Both are a cold, disjointed, mishmash of wannabe thrill rides. Sure as you are in a particular ride you may get lost in its theming, but outside nothing makes any sense at all. Anyone who has recently visited both parks surely knows what I am talking about. Ok, now back to the topic. I agree with everything you are saying about the idealism of Obama's speeches and the original concept of EPCOT. In fact I made a very similar comment back in November on this very blog under "The Promise of Brighter Days." It reads, "Speaking to the nature of this posting, this country is dying for leadership and change. Whether or not you are an Obama supporter is irrelevant. The speech that he gave the night of the election gave shivers down my spine. You could see it on the faces of the thousands and thousands of people that gathered at Grant Park in Chicago. This country is sick and tired of the same ol' same ol'. It is looking for something new, forward thinking and exciting. The Disney top brass would be crazy not to take advantage of the peoples need for a bright future. EPCOT would be the perfect place to explore the future and all it has to offer. Get creative! What EPCOT was in the early 80's was mind blowing at the time. When is the last time a Disney ride challenged you to think or really wowed you? I hate this cliché. But, think outside the box. America is dying for the promise of a better tomorrow. Bring it to life at EPCOT."blueskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481663761338257429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-34114966439865621852009-01-26T14:55:00.000-08:002009-01-26T14:55:00.000-08:00If you think, Anonymous, then you haven't been lis...If you think, Anonymous, then you haven't been listening closely at all.Digital Jedihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02374739586203788564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-45211273736222163612009-01-26T13:59:00.000-08:002009-01-26T13:59:00.000-08:00Boy, Obama's bromides are fit for a Hallmark card....Boy, Obama's bromides are fit for a Hallmark card. But little else. The man speaks with such little substance that it makes me nauseous.<BR/><BR/>EPCOT is filled with substance. Obama's speeches are not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-76695693750219581042009-01-25T08:28:00.000-08:002009-01-25T08:28:00.000-08:00As for myself, my first visit was in June 1983. I...As for myself, my first visit was in June 1983. It's not easy to forget that!Epcot82https://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-7085513724053353032009-01-24T20:32:00.000-08:002009-01-24T20:32:00.000-08:00Andy JS - I went to EPCOT Center a few months afte...Andy JS - I went to EPCOT Center a few months after it opened in 1982, I was 15 years old. And repeatedly after that. What can I do you for?Critifurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141579638692458603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-31347142653034945762009-01-24T20:29:00.000-08:002009-01-24T20:29:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Critifurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141579638692458603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-77809509070577043532009-01-24T20:28:00.000-08:002009-01-24T20:28:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Critifurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141579638692458603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-80176201056073798612009-01-22T22:44:00.000-08:002009-01-22T22:44:00.000-08:00"As stated by both Walt himself and by the dedicat..."As stated by both Walt himself and by the dedication plaque out in front of EPCOT Center, EPCOT was originally intended to be a showcase to the world of the creative imagination of American free enterprise"<BR/><BR/>Originally, it was intended to be a showcase of American free enterprise but Michael Madoff made off with Spaceship Earth's refurbishment budget...<BR/><BR/>Socialism is evil, unless we want to bail out auto and bank executives and preserve <I>their</I> quality of life. Universal health care for the working poor? NO! BIG GOVERNMENT BAD! ME HATE GOVERNMENT!Spokkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03244298044953214810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-41979163390668005942009-01-22T15:27:00.000-08:002009-01-22T15:27:00.000-08:00(Sorry to be off topic here): Most people I know ...(Sorry to be off topic here): Most people I know started going to EPCOT in the late 80s, early 90s, and that's true of my family. Did anyone commenting on this site go to EPCOT in the first few years, like 1982-1986? I'd love to hear from you. Thanks, Andy.Andy JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15819413906544791899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-56033467840269124852009-01-22T10:28:00.000-08:002009-01-22T10:28:00.000-08:00(^) yeah, I was wondering about that - very cool. ...(^) yeah, I was wondering about that - very cool. yet, its not all <I>that</I> shocking seeing how Disney is so into cross-pollinating now. still, a good go for Gavin & EPCOT - woohoo!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01891803494450719808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-89994312079629290672009-01-22T07:11:00.000-08:002009-01-22T07:11:00.000-08:00On ABC during the inauguration they played Illumin...On ABC during the inauguration they played Illumination's Reflections of Earth music to cut to and from commercials. Coincidence? <BR/><BR/>http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=396581Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-17157378669164767002009-01-22T05:56:00.000-08:002009-01-22T05:56:00.000-08:00Epcot82....fantastic reply!Epcot82....fantastic reply!Coffee House and Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07171329944298864058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-71838577475582291132009-01-22T00:37:00.000-08:002009-01-22T00:37:00.000-08:00Your comments are always welcome. I won't turn th...Your comments are always welcome. I won't turn the forum, however, into a political debate. I was focusing on the concepts and ideals, the inspiring words, the philosophies behind his speech, not their practical, political application. I like to believe I'm intelligent enough to have heard the words, understand the pragmatic concepts behind them, but also appreciate the feelings and beliefs they inspired in me and others. I don't believe I missed the point as much as I saw a different view.Epcot82https://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-5016038130179844032009-01-21T23:08:00.000-08:002009-01-21T23:08:00.000-08:00Epcot82, I believe you missed the point in Obama's...Epcot82, I believe you missed the point in Obama's speech and the intent of EPCOT. I believe them both to be mutually exclusive.<BR/><BR/>As stated by both Walt himself and by the dedication plaque out in front of EPCOT Center, EPCOT was originally intended to be a showcase to the world of the creative imagination of American free enterprise - the private sector and free market solving society's problems.<BR/><BR/>Obama's inauguration speech described government solving the problems of American society, as if the government is the engine for a person's happiness and well-being. The new president even went so far as to tell everyone to ignore how big government gets - a very dangerous line of thought.<BR/><BR/>Walt Disney was a free-marketeer and a big advocate of the American private sector (why do you think he bought all that land in the first place?). It seems that President Obama's only solution to any problem (social or otherwise) is a centralized government bureaucracy.<BR/><BR/>In other words, Walt's brand of "progress" was technology based, with the private sector providing individuals - through the free market - with the ability to freely choose their own destiny. President Obama's definition of "progress" involves expanding government and inevitably limiting the choices of the individual for a concept he called "collective salvation".<BR/><BR/>I don't honestly believe that Walt would have approved of the new president's worldview, much less his brand of "hope".<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that EPCOT Center leaves a lot to be desired and that Disney is asleep at the wheel when it comes to its vision for the park. But to shoehorn the president's vision of "progress" with Walt Disney's brand of "progress" is an insult to Walt and his vision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-5194795886193788982009-01-21T17:47:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:47:00.000-08:00Wonderful entry as always. You make a lot of great...Wonderful entry as always. You make a lot of great points on this blog, many of which raced through my mind last week as I enjoyed the park. And I totally agree about the placement of Soarin'. Fantastic ride (one of the best at WDW), just an odd location.Brad Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09682650827928135758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-69254341475895403072009-01-21T16:29:00.000-08:002009-01-21T16:29:00.000-08:00Why does that picture of Spaceship Earth make me w...Why does that picture of Spaceship Earth make me want to eat cookies?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-65368035975017205102009-01-21T15:24:00.000-08:002009-01-21T15:24:00.000-08:00Wow!That was wonderfully done!Very nice!Wow!<BR/>That was wonderfully done!<BR/>Very nice!Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05452274437037044076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-67593117080706719272009-01-21T12:28:00.000-08:002009-01-21T12:28:00.000-08:00I am really glad you linked Obama's speech with EP...I am really glad you linked Obama's speech with EPCOT - because I did the same thing in my head yesterday.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901254954146927255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-57863233425979689102009-01-21T05:34:00.000-08:002009-01-21T05:34:00.000-08:00Awesome post! EPCOT stands as a reminder of what w...Awesome post! EPCOT stands as a reminder of what we were, what we are, and what we can be. <BR/><BR/>EPCOT has faltered, but it is still there. The foundation is sound and the idea is worthy. Now is the time to bring it back to where it belongs. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for opening our eyes!Coffee House and Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07171329944298864058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-32906802415941024032009-01-20T20:44:00.000-08:002009-01-20T20:44:00.000-08:00"10 Steps" is not forgotten! So much has happened..."10 Steps" is not forgotten! So much has happened in the meantime. Thanks for the reminder.Epcot82https://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-73803032866723834752009-01-20T20:30:00.000-08:002009-01-20T20:30:00.000-08:00How about the "Ten Steps to a Better EPCOT" series...How about the "Ten Steps to a Better EPCOT" series?... just curious.<BR/><BR/>Another great post. Let's pray for a new infusion of <I>progress</I> at Disneyworld.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01891803494450719808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-58281016692228894832009-01-20T20:06:00.000-08:002009-01-20T20:06:00.000-08:00Yes. Thanks for asking!Yes. Thanks for asking!Epcot82https://www.blogger.com/profile/14763893513279437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23143199.post-31903653222046490892009-01-20T19:59:00.000-08:002009-01-20T19:59:00.000-08:00Are you going to continue the "best and worst" ser...Are you going to continue the "best and worst" series?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com